Tucker Carlson on his MAGA split and Trump's 'nihilism' | NPR's Newsmakers

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Tucker Carlson is talking about what happened behind closed doors in his very public break with President Trump.In this episode of NPR's Newsmakers, Carlson told host Steve Inskeep about a meeting with Trump in which, he says, Trump dismissed his concerns about the Iran war by saying, "We'll all die anyway."Carlson has taken the view not only that Israel influenced Trump to launch the war, but that Israel gave Trump no choice, and in fact that outside forces control both American political parti